*** QUESTION ***
Jeffy:
I often get tix to professional highend shows in Los Angeles and
WOMEN ( I have to been led to believe) are impressed/interested/
intrigued by guys and the uncommon events (Professional theater,
What is a good way to present these type of events AND NOT make
them into a standard date, NOT LIKE you are trying to impress
them. I've been playing with NOT letting them know what the event
is and then letting them discovering it.
Also, I work by the theatres and sometimes it's just not
practicle to go get them so I have them meet me at the
performance. Either way, I've not had a lot of luck pulling in
NEW HB's to the shows and I'm also not sure how to Jedi mind the
OLD HB's I know that I sometimes take into looking at me in a new
sexual light during one of these events.
I know that sometimes, cool more adult types of events can back
fire and ususally put dates for women into a more serious/
courtship context.... Any advice would be great. It sucks to have
access to free chick events and just not being able to tranform
them into something sexual.
Any Advice...
Thanks,
SAA
>>>>>> Jeffy's REPLY:
Another interesting question.
Right off the bat, let me say that you're correct in the
assumption that taking a girl to this type of event sets up
a courtship frame.
But let's pretend for a moment that it didn't. It's not good
anyway, because it's a sort of static experience where there's
limited interaction between you and the girl. In other words,
you can't talk to each other during these events. Hell, even
a dinner date is preferable to that.
Note: I'm not saying a dinner date is a good idea here. In fact,
any sort of formalized "date" prior to sex is setting up that
same "serious/courtship/make him wait" frame.
That said, let me give you a little tip... if you MUST go on
some type of dinner meeting with a girl, make sure you sit at
the bar.
This is far preferable to a table, because it allows you to have
physical contact with her, whereas a table serves to form a barrier
between you where a distance of a few feet suddenly becomes this
yawning chasm of death!
Anyway, back to the matter at hand. I'm sorry to say this, but
there's really no good way to present this event to avoid setting
up the courtship/supplicant frame. Yeah, I know you probably
didn't want to hear that!
All is not lost, however. These events are great, for AFTER sleeping
with her, when you're trying to build a relationship with a girl
you really like.
I've had problems in the past where I'd get a girl in bed by means
of my pimp-ass player ways. But unfortunately, some girls would
not take me seriously for that very reason. They'd figure I was
just not boyfriend material, a male slut, whatever.
And because I was so militant about non-supplication, I'd just let
them slip away.
It wasn't until I had a few girls I really wanted to get to know
better slip through my fingers that I started to reconsider. I
know, these are what we call 'high-quality problems', but once you
start getting really good with women and having a lot of casual
sex, this becomes an issue.
So I eased up on the hardcore non-supplication mindset, and
experimented. I'd have sex with a girl, and if I liked her, I'd
take her to a nice brunch in the morning. And whaddya know? They'd
actually call me again, and occassionally, it would blossom into
something more than a one-night-stand... just as I had planned.
The thing is, it's OKAY to do these types of things once you've
established that it's not coming from a place of NEEDINESS and
INSECURITY. In fact, these gestures of generosity and grandeur
mean so much more coming from a bad-ass cold-hearted player. The
contrast makes it even more special to her.
So there you go, that's the way you've gotta leverage these
events to work to your advantage with women.
But beyond that, let me ask you this: do YOU like these events?
If so, I'd just go with my bros and enjoy the show.
There's the rub about this whole pick-up game: once you get it
HANDLED, it frees you up to enjoy life in all contexts; in other
words, success with women ceases being the 800 pound gorilla in
the room, and you don't have to view everything through that prism
anymore.
Which means you can go to high-end chick events with your boys and
get drunk. At least that's what I'd do! :)
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